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[08:13:35 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: according to Andrey MyInfusion got on production as well as my other pull requests. Although there is a pull request with modified tools.js which should be compiled from coffee script. So I'm trying to install node on my computer as well as coffee script 1.3.1 according to Andrey - https://github.com/ISKME/OER-Commons/pull/144#issuecomment-6348514

[08:13:55 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> I will need to resubmit my pull request with tools.js once I recompile it properly

[08:15:07 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks alexn1

[08:15:10 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: When I submit my pull request should I send it to Sergey or Andrey or both of them ?

[08:15:20 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: can you update the wiki page with the new status for each of your issues?

[08:15:41 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: I don't know - I guess both of them

[08:20:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: you'll be happy to know that our decapod packages have made it to Nigeria.. they are Lagos

[08:21:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> wow Justin_o, that was fast!

[08:22:18 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Let's hope our friends at customs don't think we're sending them another Christmas gift.

[08:23:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: lol and you're not there to hand out granola bars this time

[08:23:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: the tracking info says that clearance processing is complete

[08:23:42 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o and let's not forget the free hugs.

[08:24:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: (smile)

[08:24:53 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled: are you able to access http://staging.oercommons.org/? seems it's down.

[08:28:03 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli: it's not working for me either

[08:28:18 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok. thx

[08:29:08 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> Random question, not really fluid related, but I can't think of an IRC channel with more qualified people to answer it.

[08:29:34 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> If you inline <script/> code in a page. Sort of scattered around.

[08:29:44 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> Maybe some up in the head, and some at the bottom

[08:30:05 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> but then you include external javascript with a <script src="stuff.js" /> tag

[08:30:27 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> will the browser wait for all those external loads before it runs the inline javascript?

[08:31:41 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> I mean, it seems like it must, because people always use jQuery stuff inline in the page, but at the end of the day, I realize I'm not sure if that's actually guaranteed behavior or not

[08:48:33 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> sgithens: i think folks might just be winding up for the day

[08:50:14 CDT(-0500)] <sgithens> jessm: No worries (tongue)

[08:53:42 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> fluid-everyone: does anyone know where the accessforall IMS mtg?

[08:54:41 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, we usually meet via skype

[08:55:14 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: there's a mtg. in 5 min where colin is demo'ing GPII architecture

[08:55:17 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> is that on skype?

[08:55:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yes, that's the one. he's going to try meeting burner to share slides, but the audio would be skype

[08:55:45 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: and how does one join?

[08:56:21 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> madeleine usually calls everyone. I can give her your Skype id

[08:56:30 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: please do

[08:56:31 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> thx

[09:10:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: did you get a chance to update your issues's status on http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/OER+Commons+Accessibility+Testing+Results

[09:12:53 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: no i did not

[09:13:02 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> I want to resubmit my pull request first

[09:14:26 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled, anastasiac, cindyli: did you have a chance to compile oer coffee scripts using coffee-script 1.3.1 ?

[09:14:50 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> alexn1, yes

[09:14:59 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> anastasiac: which command do you use ?

[09:15:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> "coffee -c <filename-no-extension>"

[09:15:25 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> do you compile every file separately or use some other command

[09:15:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I've only ever had to compile one file

[09:15:42 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> what file was that ?

[09:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> I'm trying to compile tool.coffee

[09:16:29 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> but it throws me errors

[09:16:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> header.coffee

[09:16:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> maybe you have errors in your script?

[09:16:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'm on a call right now, alexn1, but after, I can come look

[09:16:56 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> well if I have then staging has as well

[09:17:05 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> ok thx that would be amazing

[09:17:17 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> since I'm trying to compile staging working version

[09:28:24 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: updated http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/OER+Commons+Accessibility+Testing+Results

[09:29:32 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx alexn1

[09:29:45 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> so alexn1 - will you be doing a pull request to master for 575?

[09:30:04 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> have you tested it on staging?

[09:30:54 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> yes I tested it on staging

[09:31:16 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> I will double test it again and then submit a request for master

[09:31:41 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> I did not submit it to master since the pull request for staging got in this morning

[09:31:57 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cool

[09:32:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> what about 595? will you do the pull request to staging for that one?

[09:33:59 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: ^

[09:36:13 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> Is it the one you are reviewing ? _

[09:36:55 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> oops I missed this one and created a row double at the end

[09:37:06 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> but it is still pending review

[09:37:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: I'm pretty sure I reviewed it - I wouldn't have changed to status to pull request unless I'd reviewed it

[09:38:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: I'll look at it again just in case

[09:38:24 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> well you did not tell me about that. especially taking into consideration the fact that we just talked about it yesterday evening right before I left

[09:38:52 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> so I assumed that its status is still under review

[09:38:53 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> (smile)

[09:40:19 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> ah, I guess I replied as you went offline yesterday (smile)

[09:40:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: yep, it's ready for a pull request to staging

[09:41:05 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: just make sure there are no coffee files that generate the js you've altered

[09:41:07 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> ok will do

[09:41:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: I didn't look for that

[09:49:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: have you had a chance to update your issues on http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/OER+Commons+Accessibility+Testing+Results

[09:50:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, mine are all up-to-date as of last night. There are two that are now on staging (584 and 592) and one now on production. And one of my staging requests 563 is bad, I have to fix it

[09:50:51 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx anastasiac

[09:57:14 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac, alexn1, cindyli: I just checked with Andrey and he said that if we find new bugs in the system we should create an Assembla ticket and assign it to Sergey. Unless of course we are going to fix them ourselves of course. (smile)

[09:57:30 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok

[09:57:37 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> btw, using the messaging inside Assembla is a good way to keep the conversations with Andrey open

[09:57:48 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> let's move from private e-mail into Assembla messages

[09:58:36 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, my "assemble messages" do you mean comments on tickets, or a separate messaging system

[09:59:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: both, actually. where before I used to have to send Andrey an email message after doing a pull request, now I just comment on the ticket and he sees it

[09:59:47 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: there is a 'Messages' tab in the Assembla interface which you can use for non-ticket specific questions

[10:01:58 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled: should I continue to pick items from the list in ur yesterday's email, fix it in a branch but not to send a pull request? We agreed yesterday pull requests for the new tickets should stop early this morning.

[10:02:48 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli: I'm thinking we might be most helpful at this point finding regressions in the system

[10:03:06 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok

[10:26:05 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura : I have implemented that second option and it seems to work fine. I also figured out a way to turn direct page navigation (smile)

[10:26:27 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> will commit after cleanup code

[10:26:44 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: awesome, if i were to checkout your repo, how would i try it, after you commit (smile) ?

[10:39:33 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura : You can checkout using github ... current project is in pure js format

[10:39:47 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> which I will be changing in next few days.. sry was disconnected

[11:59:52 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: me and anastasiac worked on this pull request https://github.com/anvk/OER-Commons/tree/OER-598 could you review it please ?

[12:26:22 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura : can we get an open source license of webstrom (http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/buy/index.jsp) its free and it seems pretty good ?

[12:27:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: forgot to mention this to you, but it looks like googlecode changed their fingerprints again (sad)

[12:27:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think we are going to have to update them every week

[12:27:57 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: sure, feel free to apply for it, i dont tihnk you need anything really except providing some description

[12:29:24 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: that's groovy.

[12:29:42 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I hope it doesn't happen too often.

[12:29:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: yes.. 3rd time i've had to set it so far.. pretty annoying

[12:32:29 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura : I am not eligible.. just dropped u an email with details

[12:32:39 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/buy/buy.jsp#openSource

[12:33:20 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura : can we get it on behalf of fluid community rather then my project ?

[12:34:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: once i figure out how to update the install scripts, do you think we should release an update like decapod 0.4.1 or something

[12:34:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> so that they can use it as well

[12:34:57 CDT(-0500)] <yura> Justin_o: what do we do in cases like that ? ^

[12:37:03 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Justin_o, the fingerprints is only used for Ubuntu 12.04, and Decapod 0.5 is supported on 10.04. So I don't think a new revision is needed unless you feel strongly about it.

[12:37:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: ?-

[12:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: ? -

[12:37:40 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> nopers

[12:37:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> weird

[12:37:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: ? _

[12:37:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: ?_

[12:37:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol

[12:38:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: that's not for the fingerprints.. its for getting it to work on 12.04.. not sure if users of Decapod 0.5 would want to use it there as well

[12:38:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: ? _

[12:38:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura: you need a license?

[12:39:06 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> (dance)

[12:39:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: wow - that was quick - already on staging (smile)

[12:39:15 CDT(-0500)] * jhung gets jiggy

[12:39:26 CDT(-0500)] * colinclark and jessm are learning about emoticons

[12:39:43 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: yes I saw it

[12:39:46 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> was testing it on staging

[12:39:50 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: we're so old and irrelevant

[12:39:55 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: great!

[12:40:00 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> it looks good. I will submit a pull request to production now

[12:40:04 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> while it is so fast (smile)

[12:40:20 CDT(-0500)] <yura> Justin_o: yes, this is an ide that gives free license to open source

[12:40:24 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sounds good alexn1

[12:43:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura: can we chat about this

[12:52:51 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: it is on production

[12:53:00 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> and I just tested it and the change is there

[12:53:02 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> and it works

[12:53:22 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> great (smile)

[13:11:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: anyone an expert at bash script writing.. or at least know more than me (smile)

[13:11:55 CDT(-0500)] <clown> Justin_o: maybe...

[13:12:16 CDT(-0500)] <clown> should I come over, Justin_o?

[13:12:18 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: i was wondering what's the advantage of that ide vs the other alternatives?

[13:12:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> clown: sure if you don't mind

[13:15:21 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura: currently I am 30-day but I seems to have some good features in one place like jslint,local history, mozilla js debugger, etc basically js focussed

[13:15:37 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> *I am on trial It

[13:17:06 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> http://www.jetbrains.com/webstorm/features/index.html

[13:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <yura> logiclord: ideally, we would want to get the license for it within the gsoc project, getting if for fluid would require some consensus of the whole community, is that right Justin_o ?

[13:18:03 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura: yes but project needs to be 3 months old :-/

[13:20:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura: possibly yes.. i guess it depends on the conditions and etc.

[13:21:13 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura: actually u can get it... any commiter can get it (individual licenses are also there)

[13:23:49 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> yura: may be we can leave it for the time being and figure out something at the end of 30-day trial (if possible) (smile)

[13:24:47 CDT(-0500)] <yura> ok logiclord ill apply for the license for fluid

[13:25:21 CDT(-0500)] <logiclord> thanks

[13:30:38 CDT(-0500)] <clown> Justin_o: fyi, I just checked the selection of :before/:after text in FF13, and they do not select.

[13:31:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> clown: still eh.. (sad)

[13:32:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Justin_o: I don't think we've used that at all for text in our pages.. maybe some styling related graphics at times

[13:32:30 CDT(-0500)] <clown> yes. it's funky: if you do a Cmd-A (select all), everything highlights but the CSS content.

[13:32:42 CDT(-0500)] <clown> Justin_o: you are talking to yourself. ?

[13:38:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> clown: oops.. i guess i'm being a bit narcissistic there (smile)

[13:38:31 CDT(-0500)] <clown> Justin_o: :_

[13:38:36 CDT(-0500)] <clown> "(smile)"

[13:41:01 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> thanks for the tip clown. Yes, we've only used :before and :after for styling and not content.

[13:41:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> but we'll keep that in mind.

[13:41:41 CDT(-0500)] <clown> jhung, the WAI thanks you. (wink)

[13:42:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> (smile)

[13:43:03 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> Justin_o: the public ip addressing issue with the nebula test cloud has been resolved

[13:43:06 CDT(-0500)] <clown> actually, jhung, the ARIA takes the :before and :after into account when computing the accessilbe name. Albeit, reluctantly.

[13:43:25 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> we can start seeding a decapod 0.5 torrent next week

[13:44:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> avtar: excellent.. i think we need to package the files together with a small read me for the login/password and that's it

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