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[09:41:57 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: I will be doing a little testing of genpdf today, especially the DPI and width/height options. I want to see how these two options interact.</span>

[09:42:24 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: great thanks.. i'm still testing out the 12.04 upgrade stuff</span>

[09:43:19 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: cool. I'm using 10.04</span>

[09:45:35 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. good to start with that</span>

[09:50:34 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: I was just thinking about when we do automate the genpdf test plan, the output files can be named according to the input file(s) and the options used.</span>

[09:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: that makes sense.. will help keep track of them</span>

[09:51:24 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> and hopefully reduce confusion</span>

[09:56:17 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: are we putting off the upgrade to Ocropus 0.5 till a later release?</span>

[10:01:35 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: I hope not. We need to get Hasan to give us a plan on how he expects to upgrade.</span>

[10:01:58 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: yes.. from the last meeting it didn't sound like he wanted to upgrade at all</span>

[10:03:10 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: hesitant, yes, but I think he'd be willing to if given the right reasons (i.e. quality improvements).</span>

[10:03:32 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> the tough part is that it's probably a heavy investment to do the upgrade.</span>

[10:04:24 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: could be.. i guess we don't really know what's involved.. at least i don't</span>

[10:04:36 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> yeah. Neither do I justin_o.</span>

[10:04:49 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> I guess we should talk to him about it.</span>

[10:04:53 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: okay</span>

[10:04:59 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> But let's sort out the Ubuntu 12.04 issue first.</span>

[10:05:11 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> Get that stable, then let's try to tackle Ocropus 0.5</span>

[10:07:40 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: sounds like a plan..</span>

[10:08:21 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: still trying to test out avatar's install changes.. but it's going slow.. also setting up a new dev vm in Ubuntu 12.04</span>

[10:12:04 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> okay justin_o.</span>

[10:44:52 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: is it feasible to implement a unit picker for the exporter UI? Idea is the user can choose between inches, cm, and pixels, and labels and units change to reflect their choice.</span>

[10:50:28 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> um.. i'm not sure i follow completely</span>

[10:50:50 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> so we wouldn't expose the dpi option in that case?</span>

[10:50:53 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung: ^</span>

[10:52:08 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> justin_o: the units is an internationalization preference.</span>

[10:53:29 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> Example: there is a selector for output dimensions of common page sizes (i.e. A4, 8.5x11, etc). Their units would be displayed as cm, inches, or pixels.</span>

[10:54:21 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <jhung> (although the pixels value for this selector would change depending on the DPI)</span>

[10:57:13 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <Justin_o> jhung_away: yes i was specifically wondering about how we would handle that.. i suppose for inches we could just do the conversion in the UI.. the pixels would be the more confusing one for the user i think</span>

[10:59:12 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> yura : can we discuss about pagination issue ?</span>

[10:59:28 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <yura> logiclord: sure</span>

[11:00:10 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> yura : now I have managed to parse and load chapter content for validated epub 2 and mostly epub 3 as well</span>

[11:00:24 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <yura> logiclord: awesome</span>

[11:00:43 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> and the issue is how do I divide chapter (which you can think as an html file)</span>

[11:01:07 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> multiple solutions are there but I think we should according to our case</span>

[11:01:28 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> 1 preprocess entire page and divide to store in an array of pages</span>

[11:01:42 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> pro - easy next - prev</span>

[11:02:13 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> cons - even a small change in css by UI option component will reset our chapter</span>

[11:02:27 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> and no preview for UI option ?</span>

[11:03:16 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> other way could be that I tried to keep entire chapter separate and current page being maintained and extracted everytime we go next-prev</span>

[11:03:30 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> any other option you would like to suggest ?</span>

[11:04:04 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> and which to choose.. I am really confused</span>

[11:04:27 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> moreover editing features will make things even more complicated</span>

[11:05:55 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <yura> logiclord: right, so for the second option you would need to recalculate things on the fly everytime presentation changes ?</span>

[11:07:17 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> yura : for presentation changes I would have to recalculate in both the cases but I would be easy in second case</span>

[11:07:33 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <yura> logiclord: and what would be the drawback ?</span>

[11:07:39 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <yura> for the second case</span>

[11:08:36 CDT(-0500)] <span style="color: black"> <logiclord> yura : for every next-previous page click we would have to recalculate (basically DOM tree traveral to reach nearest leaf)</span>

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