\[09:41:57 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: I will be doing a little testing of genpdf today, especially the DPI and width/height options. I want to see how these two options interact.</span>

\[09:42:24 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: great thanks.. i&#039;m still testing out the 12.04 upgrade stuff</span>

\[09:43:19 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: cool. I&#039;m using 10.04</span>

\[09:45:35 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: okay.. good to start with that</span>

\[09:50:34 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: I was just thinking about when we do automate the genpdf test plan, the output files can be named according to the input file(s) and the options used.</span>

\[09:51:16 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: that makes sense.. will help keep track of them</span>

\[09:51:24 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; and hopefully reduce confusion</span>

\[09:56:17 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: are we putting off the upgrade to Ocropus 0.5 till a later release?</span>

\[10:01:35 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: I hope not. We need to get Hasan to give us a plan on how he expects to upgrade.</span>

\[10:01:58 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: yes.. from the last meeting it didn&#039;t sound like he wanted to upgrade at all</span>

\[10:03:10 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: hesitant, yes, but I think he&#039;d be willing to if given the right reasons (i.e. quality improvements).</span>

\[10:03:32 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; the tough part is that it&#039;s probably a heavy investment to do the upgrade.</span>

\[10:04:24 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: could be.. i guess we don&#039;t really know what&#039;s involved.. at least i don&#039;t</span>

\[10:04:36 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; yeah. Neither do I justin_o.</span>

\[10:04:49 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; I guess we should talk to him about it.</span>

\[10:04:53 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: okay</span>

\[10:04:59 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; But let&#039;s sort out the Ubuntu 12.04 issue first.</span>

\[10:05:11 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; Get that stable, then let&#039;s try to tackle Ocropus 0.5</span>

\[10:07:40 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: sounds like a plan..</span>

\[10:08:21 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: still trying to test out avatar&#039;s install changes.. but it&#039;s going slow.. also setting up a new dev vm in Ubuntu 12.04</span>

\[10:12:04 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; okay justin_o.</span>

\[10:44:52 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: is it feasible to implement a unit picker for the exporter UI? Idea is the user can choose between inches, cm, and pixels, and labels and units change to reflect their choice.</span>

\[10:50:28 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; um.. i&#039;m not sure i follow completely</span>

\[10:50:50 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; so we wouldn&#039;t expose the dpi option in that case?</span>

\[10:50:53 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung: ^</span>

\[10:52:08 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; justin_o: the units is an internationalization preference.</span>

\[10:53:29 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; Example: there is a selector for output dimensions of common page sizes (i.e. A4, 8.5x11, etc). Their units would be displayed as cm, inches, or pixels.</span>

\[10:54:21 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;jhung&gt; (although the pixels value for this selector would change depending on the DPI)</span>

\[10:57:13 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;Justin_o&gt; jhung_away: yes i was specifically wondering about how we would handle that.. i suppose for inches we could just do the conversion in the UI.. the pixels would be the more confusing one for the user i think</span>

\[10:59:12 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; yura : can we discuss about pagination issue ?</span>

\[10:59:28 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;yura&gt; logiclord: sure</span>

\[11:00:10 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; yura : now I have managed to parse and load chapter content for validated epub 2 and mostly epub 3 as well</span>

\[11:00:24 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;yura&gt; logiclord: awesome</span>

\[11:00:43 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; and the issue is how do I divide chapter (which you can think as an html file)</span>

\[11:01:07 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; multiple solutions are there but I think we should according to our case</span>

\[11:01:28 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; 1 preprocess entire page and divide to store in an array of pages</span>

\[11:01:42 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; pro - easy next - prev</span>

\[11:02:13 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; cons - even a small change in css by UI option component will reset our chapter</span>

\[11:02:27 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; and no preview for UI option ?</span>

\[11:03:16 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; other way could be that I tried to keep entire chapter separate and current page being maintained and extracted everytime we go next-prev</span>

\[11:03:30 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; any other option you would like to suggest ?</span>

\[11:04:04 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; and which to choose.. I am really confused</span>

\[11:04:27 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; moreover editing features will make things even more complicated</span>

\[11:05:55 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;yura&gt; logiclord: right, so for the second option you would need to recalculate things on the fly everytime presentation changes ?</span>

\[11:07:17 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; yura : for presentation changes I would have to recalculate in both the cases but I would be easy in second case</span>

\[11:07:33 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;yura&gt; logiclord: and what would be the drawback ?</span>

\[11:07:39 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;yura&gt; for the second case</span>

\[11:08:36 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; yura : for every next-previous page click we would have to recalculate (basically DOM tree traveral to reach nearest leaf)</span>

\[11:09:55 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; yura : actually having images make things complicated</span>

\[11:09:57 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;cindyli&gt; anastasiac: can you clarify what &#034;current page has text shadow; get rid of in high-contrast&#034; means in jira: <span class="nobr"><a href="http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLOE-15" class="external-link" rel="nofollow">http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLOE-15<sup><img class="rendericon" src="/images/icons/linkext7.gif" height="7" width="7" align="absmiddle" alt="" border="0"/></sup></a></span></span>

\[11:11:08 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;anastasiac&gt; cindyli, in the main navigation bar, whichever page is the current page (i.e. with the green background in the regular theme), the text has a shadow. We should get rid of the shadow in high-contrast</span>

\[11:12:11 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;yura&gt; logiclord: and the calculation takes significant time ?</span>

\[11:12:58 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;cindyli&gt; ok, thanks, anastasiac</span>

\[11:13:35 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;anastasiac&gt; alexn, if you&#039;re looking for something to work on this one: &#034;Search results &#034;details&#034; toggle&#034;  I didn&#039;t actually get anything done yesterday, so you could work on that</span>

\[11:13:37 CDT(-0500)\] <span style="color: black"> &lt;logiclord&gt; yura : actually I have not tried it</span>